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Friday, May 18, 2007

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If you care for someone, their problems become yours. Conversely, your problems become theirs as well if they care as much... What's the explanation? If someone else is upset, you're as upset as if it's your own problem... Is that good or bad? Well you're upset for a longer period of your life... but it's nice/bad to know that someone else is also so worried about you and takes your own problems to heart; the confusion is because in the first place you don't want the other person to suffer at all and that's why you feel bad for them when something's wrong for them in the first place but when you're upset, so are they... double dose of upset... good or bad? Ok it's confusing... always nice to know someone cares but I guess if you actually do care then the fact that you're feeling upset about something that has nothing to actually do with you but the happiness of someone else you care about doesn't really matter to you... All you want is the other person to be happy... I have no idea as such what I want to say... Usually when I have a khichdi in my head writing makes it clear but I guess the problem arises when there's actually no khichdi at all... All this is kind of obvious... No point... Huh? Over and out...

15 comments:

another brick in the wall said...

hehehe.. ok serious.. no but a bit more.. hehehe.. well shh... i shall be serious now.. ah well yeah.. it happens whn u really like the person.. not only that... its jst that one tends to get so much involved in that person's life that we kinda begin 2 think his/her way.. so well thats whn we start judging whether his/her actions are rt or wrong.. now thats whn thngs start gettin interesting n one has 2 take care of.. suddenly outta no where one tends to strongly feel that the person is takin a wrong decision n suddenly the advice becomes an order n then therez a problem.. well.. jst hav 2 guard against that.. just hav 2 understnd that that person is finally the one who knows wats best for him/her n so he/she wud be the best judge of the situation n so he/she shud let be 2 handle the problem.. umm.. also one must remember that one is capable enough to help oneself... if one can get oneself in some shit then one has the capacity enough to get outta it too.. so well.. one shudnt really be worrying bout that other person.. but ah well.. not all the time can we stay practical can we? we just tend to let our mind n heart do the thinking sometimes n well head just takes a break.. so yeah.. its alrt 2 be not practical all the time as long as u r aware of the fact that u r not practical then :)

umm.. i hope all i said was related n i just didnt get carried away :).. tc

the hoverer said...

The whole reason why people share their problems is not because it feels good to know that someone else in the world is also upset about the same thing, people share because, they need a ear and helps. Now i know that is not what you are talking about your proposition is more about people getting upset because someone close is upset, well i agree that it increases the net upset content in the world at large and that has an effect similar although much worse as compared to global warming, but this works both ways, and hence has a counter effect, as when people are in the proximity that we are talking about they not only share upset but also happiness, so if the whole question is about whether such proximity is good or bad, it all depends on the net nature of the people in question, if the people are in general happy people then the proximity is good and if the people are in general people who will get upset at the drop of a hat and upset enough to upset the other (because not just anything will upset the other just like that) then the proximity is obviously bad... neutral people do not exist so i wont waste my time talking about them. Adios take care and have a nice happy day

Divya said...

1stof all... not funny. it's not about judging the person or his or hr actions or about thinking the same way. it's about cring so much that it itmakes hemsad it makes you sad. thats it. nothing about making descisions or being sad atthe decisions made. thats not what i meant. hehehe ok good stuff but not relevant at all... lets see you post about this on ur blog :P

the hoverer said...

well no idea about the context and all but thinking along those lines i totally agree wit the brick

the hoverer said...

i nvr said anything was funny or anything about making decisions

Divya said...

Somehow noones gettingmy point... hoverer, ur right thats not what im talking about..just the tendancy of ppl to get upset if the ppl close to them are upset... just not wating to see the other unhappy... thats it... i agree with the brick too but thats not what im talking about.being happy when the other is happy is all well and good... like they say when u laugh, the world laughs with u... anyone can be happy if they see you happy but the converse is rarelyu true.
Decisions? wat r u talking about?

another brick in the wall said...

oh god.. div.. thou aren't gettin our point :P

1: me n hoverer both attempted a subjective question of 15 bloody marks n hence we went on to quote the entire theory.. but i guess we were both too lazy 2 mention the case laws n hence the examiner in u failed 2 understand us.

2. i hate 2 justify myself but i guess its imp that examiner understnds wat i hav 2 say sometimes at least n here i am gettin a chance 2 prove that i am rt so i shalt "elucidate" on some things i typed:
a) i laughed cause of some reason that was proved kinda wrong! damn :P

b) then i went on to become serious n i think i did explain my point pretty well but somehow u missed a vital part of it.. wat i'd said was one tends to get so involved in that person's life that one starts seeing life from that person's perspective.. hence our heart takes over our mind which we fail 2 understnd n we tend 2 "enter" that person's life in a way that we shudn't n therefore we feel that person's problems n we tend to solve them as tho they are ours tho the fact remains that the problems are that person's own n we can never understnd the magnitude since the visions can never match due 2 multiple reasons (which shall not be stated as the answer mite exceed the maximum allowed length :P).. so yeah.. thats why we start caring for the person.. and we feel more so whn he/she doesnt take our advice in the case n that tends 2 frustrate us n we shud guard ourselves against such frustration as that cud cause some unwelcme problem (now this point was kinda unrelated tho it was added 2 fill the space :P).. so yeah.. thts why i said we tend 2 act totally unpractical then as we let our heart take over our head without us even realising it :S

i hope the examiner has properly gone thru the justification of an already well justified answer :P

Divya said...

.........................
thek hai theek hai i shall give u the marks :)
point 2b almost but not quite entirely unlike there ok
:D

raghu said...

dont genralise..stick to situations.. it makes things much clearer.

the hoverer said...

hmm ya i think i cud not support the brick more, Divya, see what the brick did here is he went on to explain the cause and effect of the entire situation that you mentioned, which in effect is a comment and i sincerely think the brick deserves due credit now seeing the relevance of the comment also.

the hoverer said...

hi again, this seems to be one of ur most controversial posts but nice. anyway one more thing I'd like to point out is that its not true that you laugh and the world laughs with you, you will find on closer examination that it is only people who care for you and the people who are in that proximity i was talking about will share your joy, most others will either pretend or just seem happy because ur happy (due to the current irrelevance of the details of the above proposition, the details are not mentioned here but are there on on my blog). so in net the amount of happiness shared is pretty much the same as the amount of sadness all other factors remaining constant.

Divya said...

ok i agree with raghu...
hoverer- yes thank you very much for giving me such an explanation of the earlier comment, i think i get it... its strange that the one post of mine which is serious and absolutely innocuous or atleast meant to be shoud be so controversial as u put it... and i don't fully agree with u, sorry.. ppl need an excuse to be happy... they see u happy and theyll laugh and share ur joy.. sure some may pretend cos theyre upset ab initio but thats not the case.. everyone will share ur joy but when ur upset, sure ppl will console u cos they think thats wat theyre supposed to do but noone will really care apart from those who really do care.. those will be few and they will go out of their way to try to make things better and be genuinely upset for you.. as if it were their problem... now i dunno how i can be more clear really and i dunno why all comments have been veering away from this.. anyway... more feedback welcome...

another brick in the wall said...

@ hoverer: thank u.. the brick is honored for the credit given 4 his efforts :)

Nave said...

hmmm...
.. what u want to convince with this??

Divya said...

@Nave.. not a thing... just typed what popped in my head... ppl just decipher what they want to and as in this case, start some sorta debate... get convinced of what u want to...